I just picked up an old Kay 5-string. It is a student-grade, open back instrument. It is painted all in black (original color) and has the Kay name in a press-on sticker on the head. The rim is about 1/2 inch thick and has 16 shoes with the typical, outsized oval washers. I have just removed what was left of the original friction tuners. Can anybody give me an approximate date for this one. I would have thought Kay went to geared tuners in the the 50's - but I don't believe this banjo is that old. Thanks for any help! -- john
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